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rocketo escribió:diamantes_diamantidis escribió:Stats Eurocup. Tiene buenos números en Last16
http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/eurocup/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=003331&gamecode=124
Aquí le dan 2,08, creo que más cerca de lo que mide.
2.08 + los habituales 3 de suela= 2.11. CORRETO
tipico jugador de cuello alto y hombros caidos,altura 2,08 envergaltura 2,00 metros pelados
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en el otro foro hay dos tipos de opiniones con el último fulano que dice tubasket: "es malo" y "es muy malo".
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Re: REAL MADRID 11/12 VIENE EL GRAN DRAPER
felipe_blanco escribió:rocketo escribió:diamantes_diamantidis escribió:Stats Eurocup. Tiene buenos números en Last16
http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/eurocup/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=003331&gamecode=124
Aquí le dan 2,08, creo que más cerca de lo que mide.
2.08 + los habituales 3 de suela= 2.11. CORRETO
tipico jugador de cuello alto y hombros caidos,altura 2,08 envergaltura 2,00 metros pelados
Es que de cinco yo no lo veo, tiene muy poco cuerpo aparte de la altura.
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crown escribió:en el otro foro hay dos tipos de opiniones con el último fulano que dice tubasket: "es malo" y "es muy malo".
La mayoría de esas opiniones se basan en Draft express y análisis de jugadores cuando se presentaban en el draft.
De masacre se dice que es bajito, no tiene tiro de más de tres metros y no tiene fuerza para parar a un pivot grande.
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Le he preguntado a Nanclares sin el Hilton ese es buen defensor, buen reboteador y si pone buenos bloqueos y me ha dicho que si, veremos como acaba la cosa...
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Re: REAL MADRID 11/12 VIENE EL GRAN DRAPER
SWU escribió:crown escribió:en el otro foro hay dos tipos de opiniones con el último fulano que dice tubasket: "es malo" y "es muy malo".
La mayoría de esas opiniones se basan en Draft express y análisis de jugadores cuando se presentaban en el draft.
De masacre se dice que es bajito, no tiene tiro de más de tres metros y no tiene fuerza para parar a un pivot grande.
muy alto no es, no tira de fuera y se come los balones que cuelgan a su par si es un pivot grande. Es q esas son características de slaughter
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No te va a decir que es malo, pero bueno, que mejor que Lasme...Petronilo20 escribió:Le he preguntado a Nanclares sin el Hilton ese es buen defensor, buen reboteador y si pone buenos bloqueos y me ha dicho que si, veremos como acaba la cosa...
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En la Nba de buen defensor nada... no sé aquí que tal
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termin_aitor escribió:No te va a decir que es malo, pero bueno, que mejor que Lasme...Petronilo20 escribió:Le he preguntado a Nanclares sin el Hilton ese es buen defensor, buen reboteador y si pone buenos bloqueos y me ha dicho que si, veremos como acaba la cosa...
Bueno, si hubiese dicho que es malo, significaria que no vale ni para EBA
¿Como van tus vacaciones? ¿cuantas han caido ya?
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Venga a entrenar ingles:
Marcus Slaughter
July 3, 2007
If the name Marcus Slaughter sounds familiar to you, there is a good reason for that—he barely left the US and already should be on his way back if NBA teams are paying attention at all. Slaughter left school a year early possibly, but certainly showed that there is more than one route to making the NBA. He went to Izmir, Turkey to play for a team that does some of the best scouting, but is also notorious for not being particularly reliable in terms of paying those players on time.
Slaughter went undrafted in 2006 and immediately decided to take a six-figure gig to play for Karisyaka. The team only finished 12th in the league, but Slaughter made his impact felt immediately by averaging a double-double—13 points and 10 rebounds—which is very rare for a rookie in Europe, let alone one that should have been a senior in college.
Slaughter is a fantastic athlete with a 6-11 wingspan and a fantastic frame—and should be able to translate his rebounding ability over to the NBA, particularly on the offensive glass. He still has work to do on his mid-range jumper and overall perimeter skills, but there is surely a place for him somewhere in the league in a role similar to the one James Singleton played over the past two years with the Clippers. He’s already reportedly drawing heavy interest from a few NBA teams, and would be a solid target to sign for the minimum.
Hilton amstrong
August 20, 2009
Overview: An athletic forward-center who is a legitimate backup at this point. Not very tall for a center, but compensates with a 7-4 wingspan. Extremely well built, and has added some bulk since his college days. Could stand to continue adding weight. Not a late bloomer physically, but is the definition of the tag from a basketball perspective. Averaged roughly 10 minutes per game in his first three seasons at UConn. Blew up as a senior, primarily on the defensive end. Named Big East Conference Defensive Player of the Year in 2006. Showed enough promise offensive to propel himself into the lottery. Hasn’t been a major impact player in the NBA, and needs to have a similar spike in production to avoid being labeled an underachiever. Turnovers, an aversion to rebounding and his inability to stay out of foul trouble have all been major issues for him thus far. Will need to work hard to earn his minutes behind former UConn teammate Emeka Okafor and faced competition from Ike Diogu. Consistency and focus will be the name of the game for him moving forward. Question marks abound regarding his physical and mental toughness.
Offense: Has covered a huge amount of ground on the offensive end in the past few seasons. Much more skilled than he was early in his career. Has all kinds of potential on this end, but rarely is able to show it on a consistent basis. Gets about a quarter of his offense in the post, with the rest coming from hustle plays and an occasional spot up jumpers. Shows a solid turnaround jumper from over his right shoulder when operating down low, as well as a developing hook with his left hand. Appears comfortable making hook shots with both hands, but isn’t as consistent when he takes one on the move. Shows a drop step to the baseline and an up-and-under move every now and against as well. Will often just turn into his man over his left shoulder and shoot over him. Has a high release point on his jumper, which helps him taken advantage of his quick leaping ability and not get his shot blocked under defensive pressure. Strong enough to take contact at the rim and still get the ball up. Excellent finisher on the whole. Not a great foul shooter though, which hurts his efficiency. Shows adequate form on his jumper, but lacks consistency. Doesn’t have a fluid release, which hurts him. Would be well served to take the time to refine his midrange game, as it would help his face up game immensely. Has all kinds of issues when he puts the ball on the floor against pressure, but isn’t a bad ball handler in space. Wants to go left or come back to his left hand with a spin move if he does put the ball on the floor. Has some issues catching bullet passes in the lane. Struggles badly with turnovers, coughing up about 30% of his possessions over the last two years. Often looks lost in his team’s half-court sets. Decent offensive rebounder who uses his mobility well on the glass and in transition. Shows signs, but seldom strings together good performances. Needs to continue working hard to polish his skills, and especially become tougher and more aggressive on this end of the floor.
Defense: Average defensive player who could definitely be better. Not aggressive defensively and doesn’t seem to have a great deal of fight in him. Uses leverage to compete for position down low, but doesn’t always keep his man from catching the ball on the block. Lack of ideal bulk hurts him when defending the center position. Susceptible to fakes as well, which takes away from his quickness and lets his man score with counter moves. Has improved his weakside defense to an extent, but only to the point that he attempts to contest shots, often still arriving a step late. Will block most of his shots coming from behind, or surprising his man with his wingpan and leaping ability at the rim. Uses his length well out on the perimeter too when contesting shots, but needs to be more aggressive and work harder when defending the midrange. Extremely poor rebounder on the defensive end, has the tools, but just doesn’t pursue the ball hard enough. Needs to give his all defensively in an effort to compensate for his still developing offensive game. Doesn’t look bad when he’s giving a good effort and throwing his body around, but that unfortunately does not happen enough.
Uno del 2007 y otro del 2009. Como para fiarte que siguen siendo iguales 5 y 3 años más mayores.
Marcus Slaughter
July 3, 2007
If the name Marcus Slaughter sounds familiar to you, there is a good reason for that—he barely left the US and already should be on his way back if NBA teams are paying attention at all. Slaughter left school a year early possibly, but certainly showed that there is more than one route to making the NBA. He went to Izmir, Turkey to play for a team that does some of the best scouting, but is also notorious for not being particularly reliable in terms of paying those players on time.
Slaughter went undrafted in 2006 and immediately decided to take a six-figure gig to play for Karisyaka. The team only finished 12th in the league, but Slaughter made his impact felt immediately by averaging a double-double—13 points and 10 rebounds—which is very rare for a rookie in Europe, let alone one that should have been a senior in college.
Slaughter is a fantastic athlete with a 6-11 wingspan and a fantastic frame—and should be able to translate his rebounding ability over to the NBA, particularly on the offensive glass. He still has work to do on his mid-range jumper and overall perimeter skills, but there is surely a place for him somewhere in the league in a role similar to the one James Singleton played over the past two years with the Clippers. He’s already reportedly drawing heavy interest from a few NBA teams, and would be a solid target to sign for the minimum.
Hilton amstrong
August 20, 2009
Overview: An athletic forward-center who is a legitimate backup at this point. Not very tall for a center, but compensates with a 7-4 wingspan. Extremely well built, and has added some bulk since his college days. Could stand to continue adding weight. Not a late bloomer physically, but is the definition of the tag from a basketball perspective. Averaged roughly 10 minutes per game in his first three seasons at UConn. Blew up as a senior, primarily on the defensive end. Named Big East Conference Defensive Player of the Year in 2006. Showed enough promise offensive to propel himself into the lottery. Hasn’t been a major impact player in the NBA, and needs to have a similar spike in production to avoid being labeled an underachiever. Turnovers, an aversion to rebounding and his inability to stay out of foul trouble have all been major issues for him thus far. Will need to work hard to earn his minutes behind former UConn teammate Emeka Okafor and faced competition from Ike Diogu. Consistency and focus will be the name of the game for him moving forward. Question marks abound regarding his physical and mental toughness.
Offense: Has covered a huge amount of ground on the offensive end in the past few seasons. Much more skilled than he was early in his career. Has all kinds of potential on this end, but rarely is able to show it on a consistent basis. Gets about a quarter of his offense in the post, with the rest coming from hustle plays and an occasional spot up jumpers. Shows a solid turnaround jumper from over his right shoulder when operating down low, as well as a developing hook with his left hand. Appears comfortable making hook shots with both hands, but isn’t as consistent when he takes one on the move. Shows a drop step to the baseline and an up-and-under move every now and against as well. Will often just turn into his man over his left shoulder and shoot over him. Has a high release point on his jumper, which helps him taken advantage of his quick leaping ability and not get his shot blocked under defensive pressure. Strong enough to take contact at the rim and still get the ball up. Excellent finisher on the whole. Not a great foul shooter though, which hurts his efficiency. Shows adequate form on his jumper, but lacks consistency. Doesn’t have a fluid release, which hurts him. Would be well served to take the time to refine his midrange game, as it would help his face up game immensely. Has all kinds of issues when he puts the ball on the floor against pressure, but isn’t a bad ball handler in space. Wants to go left or come back to his left hand with a spin move if he does put the ball on the floor. Has some issues catching bullet passes in the lane. Struggles badly with turnovers, coughing up about 30% of his possessions over the last two years. Often looks lost in his team’s half-court sets. Decent offensive rebounder who uses his mobility well on the glass and in transition. Shows signs, but seldom strings together good performances. Needs to continue working hard to polish his skills, and especially become tougher and more aggressive on this end of the floor.
Defense: Average defensive player who could definitely be better. Not aggressive defensively and doesn’t seem to have a great deal of fight in him. Uses leverage to compete for position down low, but doesn’t always keep his man from catching the ball on the block. Lack of ideal bulk hurts him when defending the center position. Susceptible to fakes as well, which takes away from his quickness and lets his man score with counter moves. Has improved his weakside defense to an extent, but only to the point that he attempts to contest shots, often still arriving a step late. Will block most of his shots coming from behind, or surprising his man with his wingpan and leaping ability at the rim. Uses his length well out on the perimeter too when contesting shots, but needs to be more aggressive and work harder when defending the midrange. Extremely poor rebounder on the defensive end, has the tools, but just doesn’t pursue the ball hard enough. Needs to give his all defensively in an effort to compensate for his still developing offensive game. Doesn’t look bad when he’s giving a good effort and throwing his body around, but that unfortunately does not happen enough.
Uno del 2007 y otro del 2009. Como para fiarte que siguen siendo iguales 5 y 3 años más mayores.
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Re: REAL MADRID 11/12 VIENE EL GRAN DRAPER
felipe_blanco escribió:rocketo escribió:diamantes_diamantidis escribió:Stats Eurocup. Tiene buenos números en Last16
http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/eurocup/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=003331&gamecode=124
Aquí le dan 2,08, creo que más cerca de lo que mide.
2.08 + los habituales 3 de suela= 2.11. CORRETO
tipico jugador de cuello alto y hombros caidos,altura 2,08 envergaltura 2,00 metros pelados
Él es el 5. ¿¿Entonces cuanto mide turiaf?? 1.98??
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Petronilo20 escribió:termin_aitor escribió:No te va a decir que es malo, pero bueno, que mejor que Lasme...Petronilo20 escribió:Le he preguntado a Nanclares sin el Hilton ese es buen defensor, buen reboteador y si pone buenos bloqueos y me ha dicho que si, veremos como acaba la cosa...
Bueno, si hubiese dicho que es malo, significaria que no vale ni para EBA
¿Como van tus vacaciones? ¿cuantas han caido ya?
Por las veces que se ha conectado, un par. VIVIDOR.
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SWU escribió:Petronilo20 escribió:termin_aitor escribió:No te va a decir que es malo, pero bueno, que mejor que Lasme...Petronilo20 escribió:Le he preguntado a Nanclares sin el Hilton ese es buen defensor, buen reboteador y si pone buenos bloqueos y me ha dicho que si, veremos como acaba la cosa...
Bueno, si hubiese dicho que es malo, significaria que no vale ni para EBA
¿Como van tus vacaciones? ¿cuantas han caido ya?
Por las veces que se ha conectado, un par. VIVIDOR.
quitando las entre una y ninguna
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crown escribió:felipe_blanco escribió:rocketo escribió:diamantes_diamantidis escribió:Stats Eurocup. Tiene buenos números en Last16
http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/eurocup/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=003331&gamecode=124
Aquí le dan 2,08, creo que más cerca de lo que mide.
2.08 + los habituales 3 de suela= 2.11. CORRETO
tipico jugador de cuello alto y hombros caidos,altura 2,08 envergaltura 2,00 metros pelados
2,06 le da la pag a Turiaf
Él es el 5. ¿¿Entonces cuanto mide turiaf?? 1.98??
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viendo un poco un partido del asvel,este armstrong no pinta nada,jugador para ayudar en lo que pueda el hombre,pero totalmente intrascente,un rebote aqui,un bloqueo por alla... pero no dice nada,talento cero,ni puta idea de jugar al basket,americanos como este das una patada a una piedra y salen cientos,para acabar en esto tanto tiempo buscando? seguro que en leb los hay iguales o mejores
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No he podido evitarlo
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No me gusta nada este posible fichaje... prefiero la vuelta de D'or sin duda
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diamantes_diamantidis escribió:No me gusta nada este posible fichaje... prefiero la vuelta de D'or sin duda
es que tipos como hettheimer o lasme parecen mejores que este,es mas,casi cualquier americano de acb parece mejor que este
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felipe_blanco escribió:diamantes_diamantidis escribió:No me gusta nada este posible fichaje... prefiero la vuelta de D'or sin duda
es que tipos como hettheimer o lasme parecen mejores que este,es mas,casi cualquier americano de acb parece mejor que este
Murphy sin rodillas le da mil vueltas sin ir más lejos.
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diamantes_diamantidis escribió:felipe_blanco escribió:diamantes_diamantidis escribió:No me gusta nada este posible fichaje... prefiero la vuelta de D'or sin duda
es que tipos como hettheimer o lasme parecen mejores que este,es mas,casi cualquier americano de acb parece mejor que este
Murphy sin rodillas le da mil vueltas sin ir más lejos.
que murphy,si para acabar con esto preferia jugarmela con ndong o borchard,lo dije ayer,que tiene riesgo fichar a borchard o ndong? pues si,te puede salir bien o mal,el fichaje de este tipo de americanos no tiene riesgo,te sale mal si o asi
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hay que joderse,draper,slaughter y armstrong,a ver si entre los 3 podemos hacer 1
es increible coño,el año que solo habia que fichar a rudy y punto(al explotar el chacho ya no era necesario el base) y han echado a media plantilla para acabar fichando americanos de eba 2
es increible coño,el año que solo habia que fichar a rudy y punto(al explotar el chacho ya no era necesario el base) y han echado a media plantilla para acabar fichando americanos de eba 2
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diamantes_diamantidis escribió:felipe_blanco escribió:diamantes_diamantidis escribió:No me gusta nada este posible fichaje... prefiero la vuelta de D'or sin duda
es que tipos como hettheimer o lasme parecen mejores que este,es mas,casi cualquier americano de acb parece mejor que este
Murphy sin rodillas le da mil vueltas sin ir más lejos.
No jodamos macho, que murphy sano es jugador de rotación nba.
Vete a saber si es bueno, el amigo D'or jugo en bélgica antes de pasar por el maccabi. El chico que ficho el bilbao que viene de francia también, solo le vi un partido donde era tan tirillas que ctras un tapón bestial de savane se rompio en codo.
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hilton armstrong..... CARROÑA DE LA BUENA
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cuanta razon teniamos los que deciamos que los grandes nombres eran humo para dar la impresion que lo intentaban,primero salian grandes nombres,luego se iban descartando,unos porque renovaban en la nba eran imposibles,otros por caros eran imposibles,asi iban descartando nombres que ellos sabian desde el primer minuto que no vendrian,y al final nos traeran a un arnstromg de estos como diciendo que no hay nada mejor en el mercado.
se veia venir,ya no se ni para que me mosqueo,si ya lo deberia tener asumido desde el principio,estaba clarisimo que nos tomaban el pelo
se veia venir,ya no se ni para que me mosqueo,si ya lo deberia tener asumido desde el principio,estaba clarisimo que nos tomaban el pelo
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Y yo que no queria a Ayon
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